DRAGOON: The Rogue and Barbarian Expansion + Reprint

Created by Lay Waste Games

DRAGOON: The Rogue and Barbarian Expansion + Reprint
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3,627 backers pledged $327,614.69 on Kickstarter

Choose from either the base game or the brand new Rogue and Barbarian Expansion! Both offered in Standard and Gold Edition. Please check out the Kickstarter page for further information.

Raised in Kickstarter
$327,614.69 / 3,627 backers
Raised in BackerKit
$141,133.81 / 3,976 backers

Latest Updates from Our Project:

IMPORTANT STUFF: Finalizing Your Address
about 1 month ago – Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 10:51:54 PM


We will be finalizing addresses this Sunday 4/22 at 5pm EST. Please make any changes to your address before then so we can ensure you get your game! To make changes or just to check if your address is correct, simply click here to retrieve your BackerKit link.

If your address is not correct and the game is shipped to that incorrect address, you may not receive your game. Or you may have to pay for shipping again to send the game to the proper address if it is returned to us.

When you are brought to this page, click VIEW CONFIRMATION in the top right. From there, you can confirm and edit your address.


Your Wyrmwood Wyvern board and Gold Edition games will be shipped before any other items you ordered. Wyrmwood will ship those directly to you next week! Any additional items you ordered will come from Blackbox later.


We will be finalizing your addresses when we are closer to shipping, and you will be alerted before this occurs. You can update your addresses via the link, just to make sure you are prepared!


Because of the nature of shipping, boats, weather, etc, we cannot give anyone an exact date of when games are shipping. However, we can give estimates. If we are able to give more precise estimates, we will. Dragon pinky promise.

  • Gold Edition Backers (US/CANADA): Very soon. Blackbox is intaking all items next week
  • Gold Edition Backers (INTERNATIONAL): A few weeks from Gamesquest (World) and Let's Play (Australia)
  • Standard Edition Backers (US/CANADA): Nothing has changed. Still Late May from Blackbox.
  • Standard Edition Backers (INTERNATIONAL): Nothing has changed. Still Late May from Gamesquest (World) and Let's Play (Australia)

We simply ask that you please be patient with this final leg of the process. There are lots of moving parts with various companies intaking games and packing...well...packages. You all have been absolutely amazing, and we are finally at the last stage! Thank you so much for your continued patience. We cannot get these games into your hands fast enough :)

If anyone has questions about the shipping process, please post below!

Lay Waste Games

PS: We have settled on a look and begun production on the 4 special dragons. They will be a surprise so feel free to post guesses below. Any backer who is not receiving them for free will get a chance to purchase them for a discounted price via a backer only update.

PAX EAST PICKUPS! + Status Update for all
about 2 months ago – Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 12:41:46 AM

Hello dragons!

We are gearing up for PAX East (Booth TT51) April 5-8 and wanted to update everyone before the Boston Convention Center absorbs us like The Thing. Yes. This does happen every year.

For starters, we took in all your feedback and are actively working on making the special set of four dragons available to everyone. We never want to restrict our products, and simply didn't expect so many people to want said thing. So expect the thing! They will remain free for Standard Edition backers and available for purchase by Gold Edition backers. We will also make sure that Gold Edition backers get the first chance to order them. More details to come in a future update.


We have been working like crazy to get all Gold Edition games ready for fulfillment prior to PAX. We even opted for faster air shipping from China. The games were set to arrive March 28, which would have given us time to pack metal into games before PAX, and ship them out to all fulfillment locations. Due to slower ship times than expected, they are now arriving April 3/4, which is preventing us from packing all games before PAX as originally planned. Instead, we will have a team packing virtually nonstop before, during, and after PAX. Your games will be shipping mid April compared to late May if we did ocean shipping. We still had the ocean shipping option as of yesterday, and made the final call for air shipping.

The ocean shipping option would have been no extra money and around 5 weeks slower, but we wanted to get these games out as fast as possible. In order to afford this, we need to sell Gold Editions at PAX East. This will allow us the opportunity to recoup a portion of the air shipping fees, while getting you games as fast as humanly possible. We could have opted for ocean shipping, not selling at PAX, and shipping Gold Editions in late May, but decided games to backers faster is better. We hope you understand and feel the same.


For those attending, PAX East Pickup is happening for all items and add-ons of orders that DO NOT CONTAIN the Standard Editions of the base game or expansion.  If you ordered the Standard Edition base game or expansion, you cannot pickup at PAX.

1. Walk up to booth TT51
2. Show us a valid picture ID
3. You get your stuff

Yes, this does include Wyverns! Wyrmwood will be at PAX and is bringing us some for pickups. All pickups will also get a free Pinny Arcade Pin of your choice to offset the shipping costs.

Just to be extra clear, if your order contained the Base Standard Edition or Expansion Standard Edition, you cannot pickup at PAX.


Everything is moving along smoothly and shipping times have improved! In our last update, we said games would be leaving China late May, but now all games should already be at the fulfillment locations by late May. This makes us very happy dragons! If everything goes as planned, tracking numbers will be going out late May.

Also, we have received the solid samples and they are perfect!

We are still working on what options we have for the special dragons. A call with Panda is set for later this week to discuss this exact thing. Feel free to keep the great ideas coming in the comments! We have a potential idea planned, but we will keep that secret until we finalize it. Or would you prefer to be surprised? Let us know in the comments!

Thank you all for your kind words and support during this project. We could not have asked for a more enthusiastic group of backers. Games are arriving soon and then the fun starts! :)

If you have any questions, or just want to chat, do not hesitate to drop us an email at

Lay Waste Games

Shipping Update
3 months ago – Thu, Mar 01, 2018 at 01:24:22 AM

Hello dragons,

We are going to be updating everyone in two separate groups for this post, as our shipments are being split from Panda. Please look for your respective update below For Standard Edition Backers (plastic pieces) and For Gold Edition Backers (metal pieces). After reading the update, if you have any questions at all, feel free to post them in the comments or email us at


We just hit a snag with our plastic pieces late last week, and we do not know the extent of how much this will affect shipping times, but there will be a delay. We apologize as this was something we were not expecting in any way. And it pains us to no end that this occurred.

We were sent the plastic color swatches from Panda January 3, which looked perfect and we approved them. Unbeknownst to us, this package was also supposed to contain pre-production samples of our models in resin, AKA “tooling masters”. Although they were sent together with these color swatches, we did not receive them and Panda is not sure what happened to them during transit. Panda thought we had approved both the tooling masters and plastic swatches, and went ahead with creation of the molds based on those tooling masters. We just discovered this when we were sent our “mass production copies” from the completed molds, only to find issues with the plastic pieces.

Although we were quoted solid pieces, most of the samples we received (dragon, cave, totem, treasure chest) were made hollow to prevent warping of the final production miniatures. We have promised solid miniatures, so we will be investigating solutions to deliver on this promise while still preventing complications with the molding process. See the photo below. Second, the dragon skull (should be 9mm) and human skull (should be 13mm) are too small. As you can see in the photo, they are about 30% too small. These issues have also affected the expansion pieces. The final molds will need to be remade to address these points. Panda informed us this would delay shipping from China until May 21. We are actively looking into ways to reduce this timeline, including US assembly and air shipping.

Panda is also looking into getting Standard Edition backers some special edition components that only they will receive. We do not know what the options are yet, but if you are a Standard Edition backer and have an idea, let us know in the comments. One idea is to make a special set of four dragon miniatures. This would be something we will never produce again, and only backers who are receiving a Standard Edition of Dragoon will receive it.

Here is a statement from Panda:

"We’re very disappointed to have a delay with Dragoon because of these issues with the miniatures outlined above. These all should have been caught and addressed with the tooling masters, which Lay Waste Games never received. Since we created the molds from those tooling masters that did have issues, we’re now looking to rework or redo the molds, and that takes time no matter how much we throw at it.

We’re on the same page with Lay Waste Games that these miniatures need to be improved to meet the expectations of all the backers here. We’re working closely together to make sure that happens, and we’ll be supporting Lay Waste Games through the coming weeks to minimize these delays without sacrificing quality. If we can help soften the blow by working out some exclusive backer components, we’re happy to do that and eager to hear ideas."
                                                                                     - Panda Game Manufacturing

If you are going to PAX East, we are exploring PAX Pickups. If you pick up, you would be able to get all the add-ons you ordered, plus a limited edition Lay Waste Games official Pinny Arcade pin to offset the shipping costs you paid. Your base game and/or expansion would be mailed to you when completed. We will be in touch shortly if this option is doable.


Your games are set to arrive from China late March. Fulfillment locations need a few weeks to intake and then begin shipping, so expect tracking emails early April.

If you are going to PAX East, we are exploring PAX Pickups. If you pick up, you would also receive a free limited edition Lay Waste Games official Pinny Arcade pin to offset the shipping costs you paid. We will be in touch shortly if this option is doable.


We are so close to getting these games to you, and the team is working nonstop with Panda to make that happen as quickly as possible. Thank you all for your support during this campaign. We know you will love this game when you receive it.

If you have any questions at all, feel free to post them in the comments or email us at

Lay Waste Games

3 months ago – Mon, Feb 05, 2018 at 11:57:13 PM

Hello dragons!


First and foremost, we are working out details with Panda to lock in shipping dates from China to our fulfillment centers. Once we have those exact shipping dates, we will update everyone. We thought we would have the dates last week, but it didn't happen. Due to Chinese New Year, it is harder to lock in precise dates, but we are working on it daily.


Now for the fun stuff! We were insanely excited to see the box for the Expansion Gold Edition, but we did not expect it to be so sturdy or adorable!

While we had our jaws open at how great the expansion box was, we were hit with the fiery goodness that is...THE BOX OF HOLDING!!!

Let's not forget the mighty BARDBARIAN!!!

When making games with plastic components, you are given sample swatches of each color. Here are the swatches of our colors and they are PERFECT!

Yes. That is the gold in the bottom right for the human skull and treasure chest! SO PRETTY! We also have gorgeous samples of our new Panda fabric items, which come standard in all versions of the game!

The printing looks spot on and the material quality is just killer. And we have more images! Next is the Mispelld Stickir Pak!

Instead of the previously mentioned 5 stickers, you get 10! We are including small and large versions of the Rowg and Draggin because they are cuties.

What else can we show you?? OH RIGHT! The Wyvern! These images are straight from behind the scenes at Wyrmwood, a special place that is rarely seen.



Pictured above is just the base game components, but Wyvern backers will receive both base and expansion Gold Editions in the Wyvern. The inside area will also be getting foam added to keep everything neat when closed. Sweet sweet foam. Do not eat the foam!

As we approach March, things will be picking up, and we will be sure to keep you in the loop. But always feel free to contact us and ask questions whenever :)


If you want to say hi and pickup some sweet convention-only stuffs, our current convention and release plan for 2018 is the following.

  • PAX East - Boston MA (Dragoon Release! Heads Will Roll Release!)
  • Origins - Columbus OH
  • GenCon - Indianapolis IN (Human Era Release!)
  • PAX Unplugged - Philadelphia PA

What is Heads Will Roll you ask? :) Visit us at PAX East to see more!

Lay Waste Games

While we are waiting...A NEW GAME!
6 months ago – Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 08:18:44 PM

We are back with an important update! But wow are we tired. Beyond finalizing files for Dragoon, we flew to Essen Germany for Spiel and attended Metatopia in New Jersey, all while carrying more metal than you care to know about. 

But fear not fellow dragons! Panda is working diligently on Dragoon, which feels so good! But now we are playing the waiting game with all of you until the pallets are dropped into our cave. So while we all sit, dreaming of dragons, what better way to celebrate than with a new game...NEXT WEEK!


We have mixed time travel, social deduction, and stupid humans and here is the result. Our excitement is at an all time high because this is our first game outside of the Dragoon world...or is it? Human Era has gone through many major changes since its inception, and over the past months, we have turned it into something wildly fun. A special thank you to all the backers who playtested this early on. Your feedback was crucial and you helped shape this game in a big way.

Feel free to ask questions below, and stay tuned for more details!

Lay Waste Games